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  JW Urban Legends...

  by ThisGuy04 in

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  just curious if jw urban legends are the same all over the world...?

  i remember growing up in canada, there's two that really stand out in my mind.

  1) the smurfs walking out of the kh.

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  ...how about the brothers and sisters in southeast Asia who were not killed by the Tsunami because they were out in service or at the meetings....
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  Rubbish

  by Peppermint in

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  how often do you get your rubbish/refuse collected?

  where i live they have just changed it to ever 2 weeks!

  in between they just collect papper and recyclable stuff.

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  as part of our county and town taxes; we have curbside pick up twice a week.
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  congregational cliques

  by chuckyy in

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  it was my experience during my 13 yrs as a jw that congregations usually had a social clique.

  in other words, there would be a group of people in a congregation that would only associate (and sometimes only go out on field service too) with people within that social clique.

  if you were in the clique, fine.

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  oh yes, very "cliquey".

  How theocratic of them.
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  Did anyone enjoy singing the Kingdom Melodies?

  by Kimmee in

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  did anyone actually enjoy singing the kingdom melodies at the hall?

  some of them were fun to sing, some of them were corny.

  my brother use to sing them loud but without any sound coming out of his mouth.

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  I always thought the "kingdom Melodies" were hokey
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  Steaming Angry - Forced to explain Shunning to my 5year old daughter!!!

  by chok in

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  i am absolutely hopping mad angry!!!!.

  to those of you who know me, you are aware that i have been fading for over a year now.

  i have a daughter who is 5 and a son who is 2 y. in brief iast year i separated from my husband, left the organisation, met someone else and am now expecting with my new partner.. well i have had the usual ups and downs with my jw family.

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  Hi Chok,

  Congrats on the new arrival; new babies always bring good cheer!

  As for the shunning; DO NOT WORRY YOURSELF; or upset your 5 year old child about it. My kids are a bit older and I think older kids could understand and cope with it. Tell the five year old that Auntie was not feeling well that particular day and could not stop to chat. End of story. The young ones buy anything you tell them and are usually satisfied. They could not understand the shunning.

  Forget the bunch of them. We cannot justify why they do it, they will never accept our side of the story ; and so our lives are better off without them. Your former in laws will someday have to accept the consequences of their actions with your children; and you will have built a new life with a new spouse.

  Good luck, Frank
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  An Appalling Lack Of Manners & Social Graces

  by Why Georgia in

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  is it just me or are a lot of jehovahs witnesses just completely mannerless and lacking in social graces?.

  examples....... they don't seem to say thank you for gifts or kindnesses.. i went to quite a few gatherings and burps and farts would happen without so much as a pardon me or excuse me.

  i was even told once it's natural and there is no reason to say excuse me.. they will just stop in at your house if they are in the neighborhood and stay for however long without even calling or getting your hints that you happened to be on your way out.. i have met some very nice and polite witnesses but they are few and far between.. is my experience limited - has anyone else noticed rudeness, and a lack of manners and social graces?.

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  manners are a "cultural and economic sign post" ; they are a learned behaviour.

  Good manners and social graces are associated with the upper social classes, well educated and an economically successful strata of society; one that Jehovahs Witnesses do not aspire to.
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  Head of the house? Who?

  by upside/down in

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  i have read in different threads, comments to the effect of married dub males as being despotic, tyrannical lords of their domain.

  and i'm sure in many istances this is true.

  i had never heard of men (family heads) referred to in such terms before i became a dub.

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  upside,

  your post brought back some -not so pleasent- memories.

  As a kid growing up as a JW; I had 2 older sisters who were also ( like I later became) full time pioneers. Both of their husbands were elders. One of my sisters and her husband were always having marital problems; and were constantly dragging themselves to the elders for remediation. My father was also an elder and was always trying to referee.

  As a kid; it was a negative impression for me in so many ways; I knew that I could never be in any relationship like that. It was negative and destructive and I instinctively knew that it would not last. It did not and after 13 years she divorced him. She had been fading (like me) and met someone else ( a "wordly" guy) and WHAM! the JW husband was out the door with a quickie divorce.

  I did not marry until I was 30 years old and had experienced several REAL ( all non JW) relationships. I knew what I was doing and my marriage has very different results than all the JW ones I saw growing up. As for the "head of the house" my wife and I laugh at that wone as we try to balance the power between us and our children ( who are going to hunt us and conquer; if we are not careful---these kids are ruthless).
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  why had the WTS got all these laboratrys for?

  by lurk in

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  just wondering what why a religious group would have laboratories for?

  its clincial (not photo labs sids they get photos from photoaim).

  http://www.health.state.ny.us/nysdoh/hcra/provider/provlab3.htm .

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  I think Scully has it right.

  My cousin was the dentist at Bethel at one time and I know that they did all there own dental lab work in house. I imagine that they have all their own health care labs also.
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  Head of the house? Who?

  by upside/down in

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  i have read in different threads, comments to the effect of married dub males as being despotic, tyrannical lords of their domain.

  and i'm sure in many istances this is true.

  i had never heard of men (family heads) referred to in such terms before i became a dub.

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  INteresting post...

  i think much of this has to do with ( aside from the brainwashing of what a respective "good" spouse should be) how well educated the subject is....Since the JWs encourage marriage so very young; most of these newly married ( teenagers?) do not fully understand the dynamics of a relationship and most likely will never experience one.

  Unfortunately for them; they will never learn for themselves how to resolve their own "issues" ; without elder intervention.

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  Did You Have Aspirations In The Organization??

  by minimus in

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  did you think you could someday be a servant, an elder, a regular pioneer, a circuit overseer, etc.??

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  ...aspired to; and been there...being a full time pioneer was VERY overated